"I don't want this to be a 'Wegmans or schools' issue," developer B.F. Saul's Todd Pearson told the Mayor and Council at a packed meeting that continued past 11:00 PM last night. But Pearson added that he had "serious concerns" as to whether or not B.F. Saul could meet the requirements of its lease with the grocery giant if elected officials punt the decision past next Monday night. In December, Pearson had warned that Wegmans might back out of the deal if their timeline for the Twinbrook Quarter development is not met. Wegmans is currently expected to be the retail anchor of that development at the northeast corner of Rockville Pike and Halpine Road.
Councilmember Virginia Onley noted that Wegmans had already ended negotiations with Lerner at their former White Flint Mall site when that property became entangled in a prolonged court battle. The news of the store's lease at Twinbrook Quarter has been the main generator of excitement about the development among the public. But based on resident and civic association testimony last night, the public also largely opposes the proposed allowance of 150% of capacity school overcrowding.
"I'm not wedded to 150%," Councilmember Mark Pierzchala said after all testimony had been heard, expressing a willingness to "go lower" to reach a deal. Pierzchala was the one who proposed the changes now on the table last year. The changes were put forward after Pierzchala realized that existing 120% overcrowding standards would trigger a development moratorium, freezing the Twinbrook Quarter project until Montgomery County Public Schools provide new capacity (although some residents have pointed out that this was known over a year ago). Resident Brigitta Mullican suggested that the city entirely drop any school test from the APFS, arguing that MCPS has total control over the matter and the city has none.
With no new compromise proposals yet emerging, a dramatic showdown is set for next Monday night at 7:00 PM, when the Mayor and Council are scheduled to vote on the matter. The drama will not only be from the potential for an elected official to be blamed for losing Wegmans or worsening school overcrowding, but also from the fact that the body is short a member. The recent resignation of Councilember Julie Palakovich Carr, who was elected to the General Assembly last November, leaves an even number of voters on the Council. Newton and Councilmember Beryl Feinberg could counterbalance the "Team Rockville" votes of Onley and Pierzchala, resulting in deadlock.
Newton held out some hope for a mutually-beneficial compromise to be worked out in the next five days. "It's not a one-person decision. It's not a two-person decision. It's a city decision," she said.
I'm confused. How does a grocery store effect schools?
ReplyDeleteThe 5 cent bag tax will pay for a new high school in 200 years.
Delete1:02: As I explain in the article, the development that will contain the Wegmans cannot begin construction unless the city allows more overcrowding in its public schools. If they don't, a moratorium on development will go into effect, delaying the project beyond the deadline Wegmans has set to build its grocery store.
DeleteBut you want there to be a moratorium on development right? After all you constantly bring up the EVIL Montgomery County Deep State and how they are in developers pocket.
DeleteYou can't have it both ways. You can't shake an angry fist at the CARTEL sleeping with developers and then turn around and say "moribund". Either you want developers to bring in business or you want squash the DEEP STATE affair with 'developers'.
10:44: Residential development isn't what will save Montgomery County's moribund economy. In fact, as we've seen, the luxury apartment craze over the last two decades has left us with a structural budget deficit.
DeleteThe costs generated by the new residential development in schools, police, fire and social services have far exceeded the revenue they generate.
What I have ACTUALLY been advocating is the attraction of major corporate headquarters of aerospace, defense and tech firms, and the associated research and manufacturing facilities.
Such development generates revenue that exceeds the costs, because adult employees of high wage firms not only don't attend public school, but they don't need social services because they earn enough to support themselves.
The reason we have a structural deficit, is because we have allowed all of that potential commercial development to go to Northern Virginia, while just building residential "town centers" here in Montgomery County.
We need a balanced approach to economic development, of which residential development should be only a small part. Real economic development is jobs, jobs, jobs.
"Jobs, jobs, jobs." Says the guy who has never had one.
Delete12:41: What proof do you have for your claim I've "never had one," moron?
DeleteThe fact that you've never been able to cite a specific job or employer that you've ever had, duh.
Delete9:35: That's not proof, dumbass. Punch yourself.
DeleteDyer, do you realize that you could easily refute claims that you've never had a job, by just citing ONE job that you've ever had? Even if it was "janitor at Walmart"?
DeleteB.F. Saul is using Wegman's as a bargaining chip so that they can build housing there. But Dyer doesn't want you to know that it will be the NIMBYs' fault if Wegman's is not built there.
ReplyDeleteActually it's not a "bargaining chip". Rather, the feasibility of building a new grocery store there depends on a larger number of residents in the neighborhood. But you are correct, Dyer's weird narrative is to blame the Council for responding to the local NIMBYs' unreasonable demands.
ReplyDelete11:59: Wrong. Rockville is already fully-developed, and far exceeds the population base needed for Wegmans to open a store there.
DeleteThe real "feasibility" issue is that Wegmans doesn't want to wait beyond its planned timeline to open its store.
Rockville is one of the most-populous cities in Maryland, so claiming it isn't populated enough to support a Wegmans while several Podunk Junctions have Wegmans already is indeed a "weird narrative."
You might not know much about the area, Robert, but Wegmans wouldn't be anywhere near the only grocer serving Rockville/Twinbrook. There would be 4 grocery stores within a 2 block radius - hence the need for a larger population than "Podunk Junctions."
Delete"Rockville is fully developed"
DeleteNot really. The District of Columbia has more than twice the population density of Rockville. New York City has almost six times the population density of Rockville.
9:52: I'm a lifelong resident of the area. I was here when Toys R Us was on the opposite side of the Pike further north.
DeleteIf Wegmans can be in Germantown, what makes you think they need more people in far-more-populous Rockville to open? Think about it.
9:44: You're suggesting that every town in America must be as densely developed as New York City? That's called "sprawl" last time I checked, as well as a disaster for the environment.
"as densely developed as New York City? That's called "sprawl" last time I checked"
DeleteDensity is not "sprawl". They are opposites. Why can't you get this through that thick skull of yours?
9:37: Urban density in Rockville would indeed be "sprawl" by any definition.
DeleteYour magical thinking does not somehow change the meaning of those two words.
DeleteWhy is Anonymous making comments on the Twinbrook Quarters development project? Why not identify yourself. I have lived in Twinbrook over 53 years and have followed this B F Saul development project for years. It will probably be the best City champion project near the Twinbrook Metro Station. I am following the comments on our Nextdoor Twinbrook social media and am happy to report many of us are very happy with the project and have made comments throughout the process to consider our concerns. The school overcrowding is not in the control of the Rockville City Council but MCPS. The MCPS has the ability to add educational facilities, change classroom sizes, add special programs, and shift the boundaries. In the 80’s the courts declared the City had little legal standing with the school issues. I want to hear the compelling reason the City Council will make when they vote on January 28. Why would they stop this project from going forward.
ReplyDelete@ Brigitta Mullican, The fact is, during the January 22 public hearing (and previous community forum testimony), more than 90% of Rockville citizens who testified are AGAINST BF Saul’s Twinbrook Quarter project, if it means increasing the schools test beyond 120% of capacity. To say that, “The school overcrowding is not in the control of the Rockville City Council but MCPS,” is ridiculous. No matter whose control it is in, the result is the same, massively overcrowded classrooms. Pierzchala’s 150% APFS proposal could mean that over 3,300 students will attend RM. Like Brigitta, that’s nuts. It’s clear that Mullican is a developer shill. I saw her in Potomac of all places, where she said that she is planning to run for Rockville City Council (LOL). It’s hard to imagine Mullican as a council member with her pro-developer and racist platform (maybe she could join Team Rockville). Her campaign slogan (printed on red hats) will read “Make Rockville Hate Again.”
DeleteIn actuality 42% of those that testified were in favor of either a waiver, exemption, or a change to 150%. In addition, 3 of 4 of the community associations that gave testimony spoke in favor of a change to the APFS.
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ReplyDeleteAnonymous, I listened to all the testimonies and there were many in support of the Twinbrook Quarters development. I agree that most have a concern with the overcrowding of school, which I agree is a real MCPS problem. I believe in balanced growth (smart growth) and I am most concerned about the revenue loss to the city if the city makes poor decisions. Development should be near transit areas. Sorry you have a different view. I have no problem with that. Why do you not reveal who you are? You seem to know me. I am not hiding who I am.
ReplyDelete@ Brigitta Mulican, For you to say that “…there were many in support of the Twinbrook Quarters development” at the public hearing, is simply a LIE, something that you and your hero “Cadet Bone Spurs Trump” do so effortlessly. And no, the “concern with the overcrowding” is not just “a real MCPS problem,” it is a problem for ALL of us, especially for innocent children, who will receive diminished educations in unsafe and overcrowded school facilities. Another LIE… you do NOT “believe in balanced growth.” You have always been a developer shill. There has never been a development project that you didn’t love.
DeleteActually if you review the testimony you will see that 58% of all testimony was against a change to the APFS and 42% was in favor of a change to the APFS. Also 3 of 4 (ERCA, TCA, and Lincoln Park) were for a change to the APFS. Only WECA was against it and they only commented on the change to 150% they did not take up a vote on an exemption or waiver.
DeleteIf you want to see Racist-Mullican at her “finest,” check her out on Fox News with Tucker Carlson, where she all but suggested lynching the “illegal kids” that were accused of raping a Rockville High School student.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAIO1mhIEXg
In the Carlson interview, she said that the “illegal kids… they’re there as a criminal.”
After Mullican went on Fox News to falsely foment racial tensions in Rockville (and throughout the US), the Washington Post reported that ALL charges had been dropped against the boys.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/the-rockville-rape-case-erupted-as-national-news-it-quietly-ended-friday/2017/10/20/f75dacc0-b5c1-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?noredirect=on
11:03: The "boys" were let off the hook only after the State's Attorney threw the victim under the bus. His "she was asking for it" explanation was not only a pre-#MeToo Mad Men throwback, but was completely contradicted by the actual police report and evidence taken by professional police detectives.
DeleteThe State's Attorney was forced to act because the case had both local and national political impact that were immediately wiped out by his dropping the charges. The highly-inappropriate appearance of politicians at McCarthy's press conference said it all.
Clearly, the MoCo cartel does not buy into the idea that victims of rape "should be heard and believed."
If you don't have personal experience with rape, STFU and stop revictimizing the victim. You don't know the actual story and your imagines are wrong and cruel.
Delete1:11: Please direct your rage towards the State's Attorney, who was "wrong and cruel" to throw the rape victim under the bus for purely political reasons. Probably the most sick action I've seen taken in a very corrupt County.
DeleteI'm directing my rage at you 4 not knowing the facts and making things up that are hurtful to victim. You are a sick man.
Delete5:58: My concern for the well-being of a rape victim Is "hurtful?" But the State's Attorney who threw her under a bus to save the MoCo cartel - and all open borders Democrats and Republicans nationwide - from political oblivion is a well and swell man?
DeleteLOL. You have zero credibility.
You are a paranoid schizophrenic.
DeleteSaying she was "thrown under the bus" is not the truth (it was done for her benefit) and everytime you talk is like slapping her across the face.
DeleteWhy you hate on this family?
8:56: Letting the alleged rapists off the hook is "for her benefit?" LOL. Gov. Phil Murphy shares your view, and he and his cronies are taking actions similar to John McCarthy in the rape case in Murphy's office.
DeleteThe victim herself reported the attack. She knows what happened, and the police report supports her claims.
2:01: You're the one who is mentally ill if you support gang rape.
You're publically admitting that you have and will
Deletego against the families wishes and continue to cause pain on their daughter.
You are a sick man.
11:59: The victim herself reported the attack - you think her family doesn't support her? John McCarthy was the one causing her pain by dropping all charges for political reasons. Sick!
DeleteWe get it. you hate women and latinx.
Delete4:34: By supporting women who are victims of rape, I am "hating women and latinx?" LOL
DeleteThat's not supporting it's revictimizing.
DeleteGo work with victims then maybe you'll understand the what women say and why.
All I've done is to try and educate you to understand the victims, what they've been through and how they deal with it. Especially with this case you are far off base.
All you've done is insult and laugh at me.
8:30: Support is "revictimizing?" That makes no sense whatsoever. Dropping the charges was revictimizing. How can you say I'm "off base" if everything beyond the police report and what was stated in court is not public?
DeleteIn fact, what little narrative was sketched out by McCarthy and the defense was victim shaming, and not backed up by the actual evidence in the police report. which totally contradicted the "consensual" claim.
Go work with victims then maybe you'll understand them, understand what women say and why. Learn.
DeleteNot fighting you, begging you. Learn.
8:54: I understand that victims of rape have a right to be heard and believed. Now if you can get John McCarthy to "learn" that. I'm not the unenlightened one in this debate.
DeleteThe fact that prosecutors went on to prosecute the case two months after the initial accusation clearly indicates that the accuser was "heard".
Delete9:35: "Prosecute?!" They dropped the rape charges! She never had her day in court. Justice denied by a State's Attorney unethically-consumed by national partisan politics. Shameful!
DeleteMaybe she didn't want her day in court. Ever think of that? Maybe there's other thinks you could never imagine. Being old, white & male you think you know how a teenage girl thinks?
Delete6:00: You're not in any position to be calling other people "old," that's for sure. Fortunately, I read the police report, which deep-sixed the claim the encounter was "consensual." Are you suggesting "old white and male" McCarthy or others intimidated, threatened or blackmailed her to change her story or drop the charges? Talk about "things you could never imagine." Can you forward that information to the Amazon Washington Post for investigation?
DeleteSorry, but you lost this debate a long time ago. Teenage girls are a lot smarter than you give them credit for. The victim was surely traumatized by being thrown under the bus by McCarthy for political reasons, and anyone focusing outrage elsewhere is wildly off-base. And, based on your racist comments directed at me for my race and gender, grinding an axe for some other agenda.
You're old and white. FACT. Your picture is one the site!
DeleteYou read a police report. Do you think THAT makes you know what a teenage girl thinks?
What does make you qualified to talk about how this girl thinks and what she would want?
I asked (begged even) you to go talk and learn about assaults and reasons cases go one way or another. Learn.
Instead you attack me and continue to hurt victims.
Everyone can see you for what you are.
9:27: You may want to get a pair of new glasses if you think I'm "old." Put in any other race besides white, and you would not be able to make these comments. Behave accordingly, then.
DeleteThe 1st Amendment above all else qualifies me to comment on political actions that impact my civil rights directly.
Cases do go one way or another, but not this one. This was a slam dunk for McCarthy, not a he said-she said. Dropping the charges was a despicable move by McCarthy.
I'm the one advocating for the victim here. You're telling her supporters to shut up. This isn't China where you can silence speech you don't like.
Do you know her? Has she told you what she herself wants?
DeleteHow do you think reminding people over and over, months on months, that you consider her a victim is supporting her?
Yeah, you're old. You're 3 times that young girl's age.
Too old to be all up in her personal businesss
"You're not in any position to be calling other people "old," that's for sure.
DeleteWhy not? Are there rules? rowg rules?
1st Amendment?
4:36: And you're too old to be victim-shaming her by suggesting she was a consensual participant. You don't "consider her a victim?" Sick!
Delete4:55: A gigantic pot calling a kettle black is not a 1st amendment matter. You're allowed to say it, but "you're not in any position" to sound credible while doing so.
Crazy old rich white guy won't stop talking about a what teenage girl wants.
DeleteAnonymous asking him to stop.
We can see who's the sick one.
11:54: "Anonymous asking him to stop." LOL
DeleteYeah, the scourge of men who are concerned about victims of rape must be stopped. It's horrifying that people care!
You think it funny that someone asked you to stop hurting young girl?
DeleteYou don't have kids, do you? I you did, you'd understand and stop guessing what victims think.
7:32: Now you're not only posing as two separate commenters, but actively fantasizing that I am "hurting young girl." People who care about victims are "hurting" them, in your mind. Definitely a unique take on the issue.
DeleteDon't you recognize that many in the community were concerned about the victim, and supportive of her getting justice and whatever resources she might need?
What a blithering idiot you are.
DeleteThe only state that keeps track of crimes committed by the illegal Alien population is Texas.The Texas Department of Public safety study from 2011-2018 states illegal Aliens committed 624 homicides in that time period.Thats homicide only and diies not include other crimes such as violence and burglary.If those illegals were kept out,those people would be alive.
ReplyDeletethat's 624 homicides by illegal Aliens in Texas.One State.
ReplyDeletea February 2018 study by the Cato Institute using 2015 crime statistics from Texas found immigrants in the country illegally were 25 percent less likely to be convicted of homicide than native-born Americans. (Legal immigrants were 87 percent less likely.)
ReplyDeleteAccording to the study, immigrants in the country illegally were also 11.5 percent less likely than native-born Americans to be convicted of sexual assault and 79 percent less likely to be convicted of larceny.
The study found higher conviction rates among illegal immigrants for gambling, kidnapping, smuggling and vagrancy, but those offenses were rare and made up a tiny fraction of overall crime in Texas in 2015.
9:49: The Cato Texas study is flawed for several reasons. First, it's clear the author chose Texas specifically because it is one of the most active states in removing illegal immigrants from the population, through close cooperation with federal authorities.
DeleteSecond, the majority of homicide victims by Latino perpetrators are also Latino; it's a known fact that murder cases involving black or Latino victims are solved at a much lower rate than cases with white victims.
Likewise, illegal immigrants guilty of murder are that much harder to find by law enforcement, because in many cases, their fingerprints and other ID info are not in U.S. databases. In comparison, the other crimes you cited as having high illegal convictions like gambling, smuggling and vagrancy, are ones where the perpetrator is caught in the act and therefore much easier to convict than murder. Again, that's probably why the author chose capital crimes as the benchmark.
Finally, we know that right here in Montgomery County, according to the County itself, 25% of the jail population on any given day is made up of gang members, who are virtually all undocumented.
You may think it's flawed, but you aren't an expert in the field. The academic world has not found the study to be flawed.
DeleteFurthermore, the Cato study is accepted and supported by the peer reviewed "Criminology" journal. "Social Science Quarterly" writes "The study found no association between immigrant population size and increased violent crime, though it found a “small but significant association between undocumented immigrant populations and drug-related arrests.”
Are you afraid of all immigration or only the non-whites?
8:41: "The academic world" is almost entirely made up of card-carrying Communists who support open borders, so no one is going to take their word for much on the topic.
DeleteHow could the study be credible when the author doesn't even know the accurate number of illegal immigrants in the state of Texas?
You're afraid of everyone.
Delete5:49: You're the one afraid - you're too scared to put your name on your comments. I'm not hiding, you are.
DeleteWe're not talking about me, we're talking about you, the one who talks about himself and publishes his opinions and bias.
DeleteAre you afraid of all immigration or only the non-whites?
11:39: No, we're talking about you, coward.
DeleteYou can't or won't stay on topic and call ME a coward?
Deleteyourthe one who said " academic world is almost entirely made up of card-carrying Communists"
Are you afraid of all immigration or only the non-whites? Or everyone?
4:30: I'm using my real name, while you have to hide yours, because you're too much of a coward to publicly support your nutty ideas.
DeleteIt's well-known that academia is largely dominated by Communists - and most often, fellow travelers.
Nope. That's an old story.
DeleteI'm surrounded by academia, not a commie in the bunch. They tend to follow international politics, and take more international positions. Which are usually more left wing, at least by US standards.
8:49: If they're not card-carrying, they are certainly Fellow Travelers. Not many Jacksonian Democrats on the Berzerkly campus in California.
DeleteNope. One or two in MAGA hats even. New generation, keep up.
Delete5:45: Berzerkley professors in MAGA hats? LOL. Whatever you're smoking, it's available in mass quantities on that campus.
DeleteThe "academic world" is more than UC-Berekley.
DeleteYou keep changing the topic, the lazy man's way. Typical. You lose, subject closed.
9:08: University of Maryland is exactly the same as Berzerkley. A few random conservatives here and there do not match the domination of the far left, and the vast majority of them are Never Trumpers eagerly awaiting the Third Coming of Jeb! and world government. No MAGA hats, no America First.
DeleteThe rantings of a sociopathic, blithering idiot on display at 9:28AM.
DeleteCDC estimates Salmonella causes about 1.2 million illnesses, 23,000 hospitalizations, and 450 deaths in the United States every year.
ReplyDeleteCato institute immigration study has been proven to be a flawed study by a pro illegal immigration libertarian think tank.
ReplyDeleteNo it hasn't.
Delete10:51: I just debunked it above.
DeleteYou just showed that you were that not-so-anonymous guy ranting all day yesterday.
Delete9:07: Unlike you, I have the guts to put my name on all of my comments.
DeleteThat's a good joke. Tell another.
Delete8:50: Can you still moonwalk?
Delete8:23: Can you act your age?
Delete8:35: Can Hans Riemer?
DeleteWow, that's a really lame attempt at deflection, Dyer. Can you cite any behavior by Hans Riemer that comes even close to your level of immaturity?
Delete9:40: The time he called a man with a Latina wife and child a "racist," maybe?
DeleteB O O M
It sounds like you are referring to an incident in a debate in 2010 in which Hans Riemer noted that the Tea Party is racist, which is true, as it is with MAGA today. Mark Fennel tried to personalize it by saying "waa waa waa waa you're calling ME a racist."
DeleteJudging by the election results, I would say that Fennel's little bit of drama backfired, badly.
2010 General Election
Hans Riemer (D) Winner 166,130 16.1%
Robert Dyer (R) 82,773 8.0%
Mark D. Fennel (R) 81,634 7.9%
1:29: The tea party was "racist?" How so, chump? Riemer's victory was achieved by his childish attack - and his many scandals and questionable out-of-state campaign donations - being conveniently left out of the media. The short blurb in the Post was hidden in an online column, and "shockingly" never made it into the print edition for widespread reading.
DeleteCombined with voter fraud and voting results manipulation, as evidenced by irregular precinct results, Riemer's "victory" was indeed not a legitimate one.
Fennel definitely didn't say, "waa waa waa." That's what you said when you and the Deep State got rocked by Steve Bannon this weekend.
"you and the Deep State got rocked by Steve Bannon this weekend."
DeleteThat's funny, I don't remember this happening. Nor does anyone else. What did Bannon say that supposedly "rocked me and the Deep State"?
4:31: I guess you were too busy trolling my news sites to watch the actual news, as Bannon operatives ended the careers of all three statewide Democratic officials in blackface, er, "blue" Virginia.
DeleteEither you and the Deep State have to accept a new Republican governor, or lose the moral high ground to Trump in 2020 by protecting your alleged rapist and racist current officeholders.
"If it's what you say, I love it."
Destroying people gets you excited. That's gross.
DeleteTell your illegal immigrants commit less crime stories to all the dead people MS-13 has killed in Montgomery county recently.Also to all the people in high Latino communities who are being extorted and forced into prostitution and drugs by illegal gang members.
ReplyDeleteWow, what a blithering idiot you are. NONE of the homicides in Montgomery County were gang-related - not by MS-13 nor by any other gang.
DeleteMany of the homicides in 2018 were crazy white men killing one or more family members.
Typical fact-free fool that Trump relies on for his base.
How about the young man stabbed 156 times by MS-13 in a Montgomery County park.And the female MS13 member who was sentenced to 40 years in prison in MoCo for helping to kidnap and kill a Gaithersburg teenager?
ReplyDeleteYou are so afraid of the browning of the America, that you're willing to post false or misleading information.
ReplyDeletePeople see you for what you are.
I have no idea what the Browning of America is but if it has anything to do with bringing despicable religious customs like Female genital mutilation or honor killings in the Country,than you are correct you little Marxist.
ReplyDeleteI can get past the hysteria and hyperbole.
ReplyDeleteName-calling has no place in intelligent discourse.
Goodbye.
Yes go read your Communist manifesto or your Che Guevara books.Maybe you can fantasize about how great it would be to live in Uganda or with the Igbo people.
ReplyDeleteWow, what a blithering idiot you are.
DeleteLadies and gentlemen...the real Robert Dyer.
ReplyDeleteI just watched a video of Bernie Sanders vacationing in the Soviet Union for his honeymoon in 1988,he was half naked and drunk and singing Woody Guthrie songs.Im sure Sanders is a big hero of yours.What happened to the Democratic party?
ReplyDeleteThe Democratic party is thriving. Big difference over in the Republican camp where the party has been disgraced by your hero, DJT. Republicans are flocking to the Democratic party, boohoo for you.
ReplyDeleteYeah the Demoractic party is thriving on Identity politics.Race relations at the end of the Obama Presidency were at the worst point since 1968 with race riots in major cities like Baltimore.
ReplyDeleteRobert said:
ReplyDeleteFinally, we know that right here in Montgomery County, according to the County itself, 25% of the jail population on any given day is made up of gang members, who are virtually all undocumented.
I say:
Cite your sources. Saying "the county" isn't good enough. Give the exact study.
11:01: "If you look at our jail population, 26 percent of the daily jail population in Montgomery County identifies themselves as a gang member." - John McCarthy, State's Attorney
Deletehttp://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/a-look-ahead-with-montgomery-county-states-attorney-john-mccarthy-ms-13-opioid-epidemic-scams
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It said nothing about them being "undocumented"
DeleteYou added that LIE
BIGGEST B O O M
3:21: You obviously know nothing about MS-13 if you think they are citizens.
Deleteyou said "gang members, who are virtually all undocumented."
DeleteYou cite SA McCarthy saying "jail population in Montgomery County identifies themselves as a gang member."
It didn't backup your claim of "undocumented"
Now you mention "nothing about MS-13 if you think they are citizens."
WHAT? You can't stay on topic effin double-talk.
4:20: What about these facts do you have difficulty understanding?
DeleteJohn McCarthy stated 26% of MoCo's jail population any given day is gang members. The vast majority of gang members are undocumented. This refutes the Texas "study."
"John McCarthy stated 26% of MoCo's jail population any given day is gang members."
DeleteMcCarthy's statement was in relation to a 2015 murder committed by members of "Hit Squad", an African-American gang, "Hit Squad is a local gang, born and raised in Gaithersburg and Montgomery Village," said McCarthy.
Also, he didn't say "on any given day". He said specifically as of July 28, 2017.
"The vast majority of gang members are undocumented."
Your claim, which is completely unrelated to anything McCarthy actually said, is what is undocumented.
6:03: He clearly said that a majority-undocumented population is 26% of the jail population. Is English your first language?
DeleteNo, he didn't say that at all. Why do you keep trying to make claims that are so easily refuted?
Delete12:42: LOL - Do you really want to go on record stating the vast majority of MS-13 members are American citizens? Your credibility drops with every keystroke.
DeleteHe clearly stated 26% of the jail population is gang members. The vast majority of gang members are illegal immigrants. So my claims are not easily refuted, Saul Alinsky.
"The vast majority of gang members are illegal immigrants."
DeleteMcCarthy didn't say this.
Cite your source.
There's a huge middle ground between "citizen" and "undocumented". Or should ICE raid the World Bank or IMF and deport all those non-citizens?
8:29: How many World Bank and IMF officials are members of MS-13?
DeleteDo you wait for McCarthy to declare the sun has risen before accepting it as fact, too?
How many members of "Hit Squad" are members of MS-13?
Delete9:44: Why don't you ask the patrons of both gangs on the County Council?
DeleteMore like 25% of all County residents are undocumented gang members.
ReplyDeleteBarbarians at the gates and many are already in the country.
ReplyDelete